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eBay / PayPal Security Concerns
eBay and PayPal have serious security problems that fail to be addressed
They also have problems with digital delivery and their feedback rating system.
They
"Strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel".
 

This report in text form was filed with www.RipOffReport.com on Dec 8, 2007 after repeated attempts to resolve this issue with eBay failed. You may access this report directly on http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/0/289/RipOff0289926.htm

Just in case some of you have been victims of a false or vindictive RipOffReport.com report, know that you CAN remove a false Ripoff Report entry: RipoffReportRemoval.com specializes in removing listings on RipOffReport.com from the top of a search engines results page. Although the idea of a Ripoff Report seems good on the surface, it is a two-edged sword that can be used for extortion. The fact that eBay never responded to or acknowledged this article or the RipOffReport.com report - BOTH of which they were informed of in MULTIPLE emails - illustrates that the following article and report are empirically true.

 

We have worked hard to provide a safe and secure environment for our online customers across our entire enterprise platform. This effort consumes inordinate amounts of time, and we routinely report all cases of attempted fraud against any of our Web enterprises to law enforcement and the FBI. Sometimes these efforts adversely affect the level of service we can reasonably provide to our legitimate customers because necessary and automatic security precautions occasionally cause customer satisfaction issues such as shipment delays, and we apologize to our valued customers for any delays or inconveniences - but as a merchant, it is better to be safe than sorry, because ONE fraudulent transaction could mean the end of your eBay / Internet business enterprise. As a legitimate customer, you must also take steps to ensure trouble-free transactions, and protect your identity online.

 

Any law enforcement agency will tell you that a thief will expend more energy and employ more ingenuity in perpetrating a theft than he would to legitimately earn what he sought to steal. This is part of the criminal mentality, and there is precious little anyone can do to change it. At the same time, a thief wants to expend as little effort as possible, but still accomplish the theft, and so he seeks the "easy marks". I believe what you will see in this article will flag eBay's account sign-up process as such an "easy mark". PayPal's security and their interface to an eBay merchant's account "items sold" page, also has serious programming flaws that need to be addressed. This article describes the flaws, and how they impact an eBay merchant, in the hope that until the "glitches" in the system get fixed, eBay store owners and sellers on eBay will be made aware of what to look for in order to spot thieves before they ship valuable merchandise to them, and end up "eating" the cost and perhaps going out of business as a result.

 

As of this writing (Nov. 23, 2007), eBay and PayPalhave NOT addressed the issue I am about to describe.

 

As a merchant, we employ outside payment agencies such as PayPal and Clickbank, so WE never see a buyer's credit card or other important personal financial information. eBay or PayPalwill never ask you for this information in an email, or send you via link in an email to a screen which requires you to "log in" to your account. If you shop in any of our stores, please be advised that we value our customers, and we take extraordinary steps to protect your online transactions. If you order anything from PhoenixStore and you are NOT a verified buyer / seller or we suspect that someone has "hacked" or "phished" your account information, we will request your contact information from eBay, and you will receive an email and a phone call from us, eBay trust & safety, or PayPal™ security. If you are an Internet thief, you can expect to be arrested and vigorously prosecuted.

 

There is only so much that a merchant can do to protect himself and his customers - at some point, honest people have a responsibility to themselves to protect their financial assets from thieves... and the best way we have found to do this is by employment of a payment processor who is on the cutting-edge of Identity Theft Prevention and Online Fraud Prevention.... PayPal™.

 

By far, the best way I have found to prevent thieves from accessing your eBay / PayPal account or eBay store is to get a PayPal security key. This small, football-shaped key fob looks like a small car door opener remote. The device generates a six-digit random number which has to be used in conjunction with your password in order to access your PayPal™ and / or eBay accounts. However, a security key does NOT prevent attempted fraudulent orders to a merchant or store by someone using a stolen credit card, as the following will illustrate:

 

On November 14, and 15, 2007 someone using a stolen identity or stolen payment instrument (credit card or PayPal account) attempted to purchase three high-ticket items from our eBay store. Immediately suspicious was that these transactions came from two separate eBay accounts that had common domain-name email addresses: alla33@cathyplc.com and furonise@cathyplc.com and were executed on the same day the eBay accounts were opened (see screen shot #5).  (Oh yeah... if we find you are a thief, we will post YOUR "identity" everywhere). The following are actual screen shots from my computer:



 

SCREEN SHOT #1
eBay's "Sold Items" screen showing the fraudulent transactions as being "PAID" by PayPal.
(Note: The
($) icon is supposed to indicate that the item has been paid for, and the money is in the seller's PayPal account)
The seller viewing this screen would NATURALLY assume that a verified payment has been posted to his account, since when he
rolls his mouse over the
($) icon, a pop-up balloon appears which reads:
   This item was paid for via PayPal. Payment  
  was sent to:
name@server.com on Nov-15-07.

SCREEN SHOT #2
PayPal's transaction screen shows that the payments are
withheld - and the money is not actually in the seller's account.
(Note: The amount field is different than the amounts above, because these amounts include the S&H charges)

You will also note that there is no easy way to correlate these items, since there are no common "tracking" numbers between them.

 

 

SCREEN SHOT #3

This is eBay's "sold items" screen AFTER I reversed another fraudulent  transaction by refunding the money to the credit card owner whose card was used to fraudulently attempt to purchase the item. You will note that the e-Mail for this buyer comes from the same domain address as the above two purchases. Being previously "lit", prior to my issuing the refund, the ($) icon on THIS particular transaction went off when the refund via PayPal was made - PROVING that there is indeed a two-way "connection" between this screen and my PayPal account. The questions are:

 

"Why have the PAID indicators been turned on (screen shot #1) and REMAINED on - even though the money NEVER made it into my PayPal account?", and "Why is it not obvious to PayPal that ALL these (3) transactions were fraudulent?".

 


 

SCREEN SHOT #4

This is what happened when I checked the domain address serving the "nnnn@cathyplc.com" email addresses. It seems that the email addresses used belong to this (personal) Yahoo! account (www.cathyplc.com). This is a bit mysterious, since email addresses can be obtained free by anyone, and are, by their nature, completely anonymous; they do not require setting up a domain-name Web site. Why a thief would use the addresses associated with this unfinished Web site, is a question that remains to be answered - you will note that that I'm NOT holding my breath. (Screen shot was taken from Maxthon browser; autosurf programs were running in the other tabs).

 

I then checked to see how long these two eBay accounts have been in existence:

 

SCREEN SHOT #5

This is what I found when I investigated how long these eBay accounts have been in existence. You do this from the "sold items" screen by clicking on the member's ID number. Notice that these two accounts were opened on November 14 and 15, respectively, and whoever opened these accounts IMMEDIATELY (on the same day) came to my eBay store (and no doubt a dozen others) and placed orders for expensive and popular equipment which could easily  be "fenced". The negative comments were added by ME - which, effectively BANS these two accounts from trading on eBay (so they will just open a few more accounts - which seems easy enough!).

SCREEN SHOT #6
In contrast to the above, this is what you would see when you view the eBay profile screen for me:
You will note that I have had this store (
red door icon) since June 2006, and am not a novice buyer / seller.
The same photo of me appears on all my other Enterprise Web sites.

 

We requested contact information from eBay (advanced search / members / find contact information) and did a reverse phone number search via www.yellowbook.com , which yielded phone number listings. We then tried to call the customer with the result that the phone number given to eBay when the eBay account was opened, was a non-working number. The fact that both of these thieves (or one thief using two email accounts on the same domain) also had NO feedback from other buyers or sellers is almost conclusive proof that the transactions were attempted theft. We contacted PayPal™ and eBay, and we had the transactions reversed (the funds stolen from someone's credit card or PayPal™ account were returned to the rightful owner). We also tried to bring up www.cathyplc.com (see screen shot #4) and discovered it was a shill [personal] domain account (with nothing on it) hosted by Yahoo!. However, the hosting was paid for, and the payee could possibly be the wannabe thief (or the thief who used (perhaps) used a stolen credit card to also pay for the domain hosting).

 

We contacted Yahoo! and notified them that the two email addresses at www.cathyplc.com were being used for the perpetration of Internet identity theft / fraud, and put them in touch with PayPal™ security. We have not heard a peep from Yahoo and the shill Web site is still "under construction" (why am I not surprised?). We also contacted the Fraud unit of the NY State Attorney General's Office (In 2006 I worked for NYS-AG Medicaid Fraud Unit as an undercover Confidential Informant and busted some "Psychiatrists"). PayPal™ also reports these incidents to the FBI, and assists law enforcement pursue fraud investigations.

 

Although in this particular incident, the thieves appeared to have set up a completely fraudulent eBay account for the sole purpose of stealing products from eBay merchants, this is by far not the ONLY Internet fraud being perpetrated (this is not to imply that the Internet is rampant with fraud, but the evidence speaks for itself). Examples of various and sundry scams and "phishing" attempts (some of them so pathetic they are laughable) can be viewed on: www.AssholesAmongUs.com/phishersofmen.htm.

 

While eBay and PayPal™ have their own protocols and guidelines, and have "suggestions" for buyers and sellers, in light of the fact that these three transactions probably would have made it to the point where a novice eBay merchant would have shipped the items to the "customer", we have developed our own set of guidelines and a "red flag" checklist. EBay merchants, feel free to use this:

 

eBay Merchant "RED FLAG" Checklist

RED FLAG

MEANING

ACTION

 

Ebayer has ZERO (0) Feedback

This is a new account and could either be because member is new to eBay or could be a new account set up by a thief.

The "0" feedback - while not an indicator in itself that something may be amiss, means that this person has had NO experience - either as buyer or seller. If the attempted purchase is a high-ticket item, BEWARE!

Ebayer has ZERO (0) Feedback AND
bid / order is for expensive item

Could be a new shopper looking for a bargain on eBay - OR - could be a thief looking to rip you off.

It is highly unlikely that a new eBayer with no experience buying on eBay, would open an account and immediately purchase expensive items.

Buyer has purchased a "BUY IT NOW" item rather than bid on it.

The buyer has selected "buy it now" when the bid price is substantially lower than the current bid price. Thieves don't want to wait to see if they won an item on a bid - this is why they frequently go for the "buy it now" items or for the "buy it now" button on auction listings.

If the buyer has selected "buy it now" either from your "buy it now" listing, or from an auction where the bid price was substantially lower at the time than the BIN price, it COULD be that the buyer wants it at ANY price - which possibly means that he is NOT the one paying for the item - and the payment instrument is stolen or compromised.

The buyer has opened an eBay account and IMMEDIATELY  attempted to buy popular high-ticket items.

Buying high-ticket items is not in itself suspicious, but when it is done on the SAME DAY that an eBay account is opened, it IS cause for further inquiry. (see Screen Shot #5)

Popular game items and automotive GPS equipment apparently have an easy black market market for thieves. AVOID shipping to anyone without a verified address, and to any eBayer with ZERO (0) feedback.

Address not Verified.

Identity not Verified.

This person has not taken steps to verify that the address / identity information given to open his / her eBay account is actually valid. This could be either ignorance, negligence, or attempted deception.

This and "0" feedback may just indicate a new eBayer. It can also be a thief. Request contact information from eBay - This is done from the "MY EBAY" screen. Click ADVANCED SEARCH / and under the "members" tab on the left, click "FIND CONTACT INFORMATION". eBay will email you AND the member information to contact each other. Search www.Yellowbook.com for the member's phone number using the address provided. If they do NOT match, the member is most probably a thief. DO NOT ship any merchandise to this person REGARDLESS of payment status. Contact  PayPal security 800-830-8574 to report what you have found.

"Ship to" address different from billing address / request to ship to another address other than the one registered on the eBay account.

This person could just be wanting to send a gift, or traveling and wanting to ship item to destination, or could be a thief taking advantage of your attempt to please your customers.

As a policy, PhoenixStore and TelsonStore does NOT ship to unverified addresses, or send "gifts" to other people on behalf of the buyer. There are NO EXCEPTIONS. As per PayPal seller protection policy, as a merchant, you ship to unverified addresses entirely at your own risk.

 

None of the above "red flags" is in and of itself an indication of potential thievery, but when taken together; when two or more of these indications are evident, both PhoenixStore and TelsonStore suspend any shipment of merchandise, and immediately initiate further investigation.

PhoenixStore and TelsonStore have ZERO TOLERANCE and NO COMPASSION or FORGIVENESS for thieves. If and when such a thief is caught, we will supply the prosecution with any and all evidence at our disposal, and we will also bring civil charges against the thief to recover loss of time to pursue him at the rate of $120 / hour plus attorney fees and court costs. Upon conviction, we will vigorously appeal to the court in an Amicus Curiae brief, to have State sentences run consecutively, and to also bring Federal Mail Fraud charges against the thief.

 

. We will also follow the convict throughout his incarceration, and write letters to the parole board supporting denial of parole for anyone attempting fraud on any of our Enterprise sites.

If you get caught thieving here, as the Bible says  "Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence [from prison], till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing". Matthew 5:26

 

As you can see, the biggest flaw in the system is the ability for ANYONE to open an eBay account without having to validate their identity, and to then IMMEDIATELY on the SAME DAY, use a fraudulent payment instrument (either a stolen credit card or compromised PayPal account) to place orders on the system, and to have those payments actually flagged as "PAID" in the seller's eBay "sold items" screen, AND the PayPal transaction screen. A merchant who is unaware of this, could easily be fleeced for his merchandise, and neither eBay nor PayPal's buyer protection would cover the losses.

 

I have made it clear to both eBay and PayPal's security teams that this is an issue that desperately needs to be resolved. Both eBay and PayPal have been notified by email and by phone of this posting here.

 

 

Having determined beyond a reasonable doubt that the transactions attempted on PhoenixStore were indeed fraudulent, the following eMail was sent in response to the eBay thieves who attempted the three fraudulent transactions in our eBay store:
 


NOTICE TO EBAY ACCOUNT OWNER

 

Following your recent order on eBay at http://stores.ebay.com/PhoenixStore/
An investigation by our company in cooperation with eBay and PayPal has determined one or more of the following:

 

1. The phone number provided to eBay when you opened your eBay account is invalid.
We request customer contact information from eBay and check phone numbers against the address using
http://www.bigyellow.com a "not found" or mismatch to the "ship to" address is assumed as fraud, unless subsequently determined otherwise.

2. Your address is UN-verified, or does not match the billing address of the payer's
PayPal™ account or credit instrument.

3. Payment to us has been flagged as suspicious or suspended / reversed by
PayPal™.
PayPal™ has its own set of parameters to flag suspicious transactions.

4. You have little (or no) trading history on eBay ("0" feedback is an IMMEDIATE RED FLAG).

The overwhelming preponderance of evidence leads us to conclude that this transaction is ATTEMPTED FRAUD against our company. As a result of this determination, shipment of the ordered merchandise has been suspended pending resolution of this matter. Any funds transferred to our
PayPal™ account will be refunded to the rightful owner of the account.

PhoenixStore has ZERO TOLERANCE for Internet fraud. We report you to your Internet Service Provider (ISP), Your Internet Presence Provider (IPP), your email provider, and to State and Federal law enforcement agencies. You CAN and WILL be tracked and located, and you WILL be arrested. Upon your apprehension, we WILL press criminal charges against you.

Please be advised that we have been doing mail-order on the Internet since 1994. We run multiple commercial Web sites, and are not novices at this by any stretch of the imagination (but we are relatively new to eBay). If we receive a suspected fraudulent order we WILL have it investigated. If found to be fraudulent, when the police catch the thief, we will make sure that the thief will spend some SERIOUS time in BOTH State and Federal prisons.

Fraud on eBay is a SERIOUS FELONY - State penalties can be up to 12 years in prison (Grand Larceny / Identity theft), and FEDERAL penalties (Mail Fraud) can be up to 20 years in prison. If you attempt fraud in our store, we will petition the court and see to it that your State and Federal sentences are run CONSECUTIVELY, and we WILL be in communication with your parole boards to see to it that you spend the MAXIMUM amount of time eating stale peanut butter sandwiches and beets behind those prison bars. You will NOT attempt to steal our money and waste our valuable time and get away with it.


LEGITIMATE CUSTOMERS TAKE NOTE:
If you are the legitimate owner of the eBay / PayPal™ account in question, and someone is using your account fraudulently, you may be a victim of identity theft. It would be prudent for you to check your bank, credit card, and stock accounts, and also change the account numbers (transfer funds) passwords, and access parameters to those as well.

It is our company policy to comply with eBay and
PayPal™ buyer / seller protection guidelines. If you are the rightful owner of an eBay / PayPal™ account that has been compromised, change BOTH account passwords and contact PayPal™ and eBay IMMEDIATELY. You will be well-advised to obtain a PayPal™ security key if you don't have one.

If you are the lawful owner of this eBay account and wish to do business in our store, please ensure that the contact and address information you provided to eBay can be verified. We use a number of different methods at
PhoenixStore to verify that the rightful owner of an eBay / PayPal™ account has indeed made a LEGITIMATE purchase with us prior to shipping the item(s) out to them. This is done to protect us from fraudulent transactions, and the rightful owner of an eBay / PayPal™ / Credit Card account from theft of his or her money.

Please do NOT answer any emails you get from
PayPal™ or eBay unless they address you by your first and last name. eBay and PayPal™ will NEVER ask you to enter your password in an email, and if a click-link in an email APPEARS to go to eBay, chances are it is a SPOOF web site. Forward any suspicious emails from eBay to spoof@ebay.com and forward suspicious emails from PayPal™ to spoof@paypal.com. If you have answered one of these emails by mistake, you MUST change your password, or risk having fraudulent transactions conducted with your account.

Internet thieves devote an inordinate amount of time and energy to their "craft". It would be easier for them - you would think - to just WORK for a living. Their efforts waste OUR time, and our time is worth more than just money; it is time that could have been spent in productive and constructive pursuits. So you will understand the frustration it causes us to have to do this - We had spent HOURS on the phone with
PayPal™ recently, trying to come up with a solution to three ATTEMPTED fraudulent purchases made in our store.
 

 

Of course, there has been no response to these emails - if there were a response, the IP addresses could be used to track the thieves to the location used to send the email.

 

 

On the morning of November 22, 2007 (Thanksgiving), I called eBay's "Trust & Safety" department, and explained this situation anew to someone else. When my explanation at what had occurred elicited no response from the person at the other end, I asked to speak with a supervisor. After listening to "elevator music" for 5 minutes while I was on hold, the supervisor answered. He also seemed dumbfounded, and blamed the problem on PayPal™. I also gave him the URL for this page, and sent the URL for this page in emails to eBay and PayPal™ in reference to this problem.

 

I expressed the concern that as a merchant, I pay PayPal to ensure the security of transactions. eBay is also coming up short in the security department (obviously), because this person was able to open up TWO eBay accounts and place orders for items totaling over $3,000 without ever having to verify their identity, and ONE of the payments actually went through, and was temporarily posted into my PayPal™ account, until I personally refunded the money (by refund via PayPal™) to whoever* it had been stolen from.

 

* As an eBay merchant, I cannot see the credit card or payment instrument information, and PayPal™ will not disclose it - which is a good thing.

 

 

My suggestions to eBay and PayPal

Currently, anyone can open an eBay account without verifying his identity, and immediately buy or bid on items from any eBay store or from anyone selling on eBay. It is prudent to require that anyone opening such an account be required to prove he or she is who they say they are. This "proof" can be done in a variety of ways such as temporarily posting two "micro-deposits" (less than a dollar) into the applicant's bank account and have the applicant validate the deposit amounts, and the Social Security number on the bank account  (as PayPal™ does), or requiring that the applicant have a verified PayPal™ account before he is allowed to buy or bid.

 

Since bank account numbers and access codes are easily "phished" with spoof emails and spoof Web sites (see my posting titled "phishers of men"), in ADDITION to the bank account verification, the phone number registered to the account pending activation should be checked (this is done easily via online phone directories).

 

Since more than 90% of people on eBay (according to PayPal™) have PayPal™ accounts, and being that account verification to a bank account where you, as an applicant must have access to the account in "real time" in order to verify "micro-deposits" seems to be an effective (but not iron-clad) means of verifying a person's identity, the pre-existence of a verified PayPal™ account would speed the sign-up process for new eBay users, and make it more difficult for thieves to even open an account.

 

In addition to BOTH eBay and PayPal's security measures as they stand, in order to open either an eBay account or a PayPal™ account, the applicant should be required to provide the number and verification code of any credit card or debit card issued by a bank that has been issued at least 90 days previously.

 

The applicant should also be required to verify his email address, and the IP number of the response to a "verification email" should be secretly recorded to the account information. Since most thieves "work" from their home computers, this would provide additional information to track a potential thief should he be able to circumvent all the other requirements for validation.

 

In short, the identity verification process should include ALL of the following:

  • Validation of mailing address via normal postal mail (fraud would then ALSO be a FEDERAL OFFENSE and the FBI / Postmaster could then be recruited in efforts to find and prosecute thieves).

  • Validation of bank account registered to applicant's name / address / SSN

  • Validation of credit instrument registered to applicant.

  • Validation of e-mail and recording of respondent's IP address.

It would also be a good idea if eBay and PayPalhad what I would call "common tracking numbers" - clickable links that would take the seller back and forth between the eBay "sold items" screen and the PayPal transaction screen for that particular purchase. As it is now, there is no "one-click" means by which to do this.

 

Although PayPal does require all but the last in this short list, eBay requires NONE of this information to "register". Merchants can require PayPalas the payment instrument of choice, but the payer does NOT have to have a PayPalaccount to make the purchase, as PayPalaccepts major credit cards as payment, and deposits these credit card purchases to the seller's PayPalaccount - the seller has no means of knowing what instrument was used in the payment. Payments are posted as "completed" to the seller's eBay screen (see screen shot #1 where the ($) icon is lit indicating that payment was made and (the seller would naturally assume) that the money has been deposited to his  PayPalaccount) The mouse-over pop-up caption on the ($) icon reads:

 

   This item was paid for via PayPal. Payment  
was sent to:
name@server.com on Nov-15-07.

 

It turns out that once this ($) icon is turned on, if PayPallater investigates the payment and decides the payment may be fraudulent, this ($) icon is NOT turned off. Unless the seller monitors his email and gets a message from PayPalthat funds are being withheld pending investigation, he may ship the merchandise to the thief - AND - when the payment is finally reversed, the merchant would NOT be covered under PayPal's "seller protection".

 

Also, since PayPal's communication with the buyer about such issues are made ONLY to the seller's email address, and NOT to his eBay "sold items" screen, it probably would be a great idea to have such messages posted as ALERTs to the seller's eBay sign-in screen, so that when a seller logs into his account and there is a buyer validity or other payment issue on his PayPalaccount, immediately upon log-in, the eBay merchant would see a message like this:

 

ATTENTION!
PayPal has suspended / reversed a payment to your account.
This matter requires your immediate attention. Please log in to
your
PayPal™ account to resolve this matter prior to shipping
any items recently ordered from your store.

 

It would also be a good idea for eBay to incorporate an icon or some sort of indication on the member's profile page (see screen shot #5 and screen shot #6) to indicate whether or not the eBay member has validated their identity. However, this suggestion seems to be a non-sequitur being that I previously suggested that activation of eBay accounts be conditional upon either previous identity validation by PayPalor by eBay employing the same methodology. This suggestion therefore, would be a stop-gap measure requiring all eBay accounts to be verified by one method or the other by a certain date, or be deleted from the system. At that point in time, no new eBay accounts would be able to buy or sell unless the identity of the person owning the account could be verified "beyond a reasonable doubt".

 

As of this writing (Nov 23, 07) the fraudulent purchases # 273 and # 274 made on Nov 15 07  are STILL showing as "Paid" ($) icon lit on my eBay "sold items" screen (screen shot #1), and the "paid for via PayPal" message on the mouse-over on this icon is STILL there - despite REPEATED calls to both eBay and PayPal™. This is a SOFTWARE problem with the eBay / PayPal Enterprise Solution, and it needs to be fixed post-haste.

 

I have REPEATEDLY attempted to get a resolution of this matter from eBay and PayPal™ to no avail. If this problem is not addressed to my satisfaction by Nov 30 2007, I will put PhoenixStore in "on vacation" mode, in consideration of closing it permanently, and since the attempt to resolve this nonsense has cost me fully a WEEK of my valuable time, I will post this page on every Enterprise Web site we own, and I will post it to www.RipoffReport.com where it will remain FOREVER (not even I will be able to delete it) for millions of viewers to see - eBay and PayPal™ will have to respond to the complaint, and will have to take RipOff Report to court to have the posting removed, and Rip Off report has never lost a case (see the following):

Communications Decency Act
or "CDA", 47 U.S.C. § 230)  Batzel v. Smith, 333 F.3d 1018, 1027–28 (9th Cir. 2003)

See Doe v. America Online, Inc., 783 So.2d 1010 (Fl. 2001)

Green v. America Online, 318 F.3d 465, 470 (3rd Cir. 2003)

Carafano v. Metrosplash.com, Inc., 339 F.3d 1119  (9th Cir. 2003)

Schneider v. Amazon.com, Inc., 31 P.3d 37 (Wash.App. 2001)

Doe v. GTE Corp., 347 F.3d 655 (7th Cir. 2003)

Zeran v. America Online, Inc., 129 F.3d 327 (4th Cir. 1997)

Blumenthal v. Drudge, 992 F. Supp. 44 (D. D.C. 1998)

 

NOTICE: If you play games with my valuable time or my money, you will pay DEARLY!

In the meantime, the theme of the message here is:

 

 Seller Beware!  

 

 

This report in text form was filed with www.RipOffReport.com on Dec 8, 2007 after repeated attempts to resolve this issue with eBay failed. You may access this report directly on http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/0/289/RipOff0289926.htm


 

Another slap in the face to eBay Sellers - Adding Insult to Injury

February 5, 2008 5:32 PM PST

 

eBay sellers to be banned from criticizing buyers

 

In move to curtail retaliation by vengeful sellers in its feedback system, eBay plans to prohibit sellers from posting negative feedback about their customers.

Beginning in May, sellers will not be able to leave negative or even neutral comments about their customers, only positive feedback, said spokesman Usher Lieberman.

     (Credit: eBay)

 

Sellers are crying foul, saying the policy change isn't fair.

But Lieberman says some sellers have been abusing the system, retaliating against customers who leave them negative feedback. And that has left many buyers afraid to leave honest comments, or even use the site, period, he says.

 

"The No. 1 reason buyers cited for decreasing or ceasing their activity on eBay was negative unwarranted retaliatory feedback they received from sellers," Lieberman says. "There has been a four-fold increase in this over the last several years. It's cited as a bigger problem than even not receiving shipment."

 

Meanwhile, eBay is offering more solutions to protect sellers when customers don't pay.

The move is the latest in a series of changes that involves how search results on the site will be displayed and fees for listing items announced recently.

 

For the record, I have nothing but good things to say about the person I bought a white embroidered linen shower curtain from last month on eBay.

 


 

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        UPDATE : As of Jan 24, 2008, there has been NO RESPONSE by eBay management about the issues addressed above - issues that would have bankrupted my eBay business, and negated all my profits for the two years or more that I have been doing business on eBay. In addition, eBay's system failed to deliver the URL for several software purchases made by customers on my eBay store. These were $1.00 and $4.00 items, and as a merchant, I assumed that the delivery system was working, because it worked for all of the previous customers who bought these products. After a few days, the customers (who were not eBayers), without contacting me about the problem, decided to leave negative feedback instead. As a result, I responded and tried to resolve the issue with eBay - no response. I cannot afford to waste my valuable time tracking down one-dollar sales (of which I net about 70 cents) to make sure the customer received them. After further research, it turns out that eBay was at fault. The customers saw the problem, and attempted to remove the negative feedback, but were locked out of the system. It is at this point that I decided to no longer do business on eBay.

 

        It turns out that there is an alternative to eBay - http://www.easybid.biz - you can join for free, and there are no "final value fees" or other recurring costs for operation. There IS a ONE-TIME member fee to set up a store, but this is easily recovered in one or two months by the fact that there are no fees associated with the sale of items on that site. We are in an evaluation process, and we will post our findings here - in the meantime, you can purchase all of the digital items we formerly offered for sale on eBay for the same prices (OUR DELIVERY SYSTEM WORKS 100% of the time) on: http://digital.Net4TruthUSA.com

 

 

 

 

The following is a copy of an eMail I sent to the CEO of EasyBid.com

 

 

        I have just joined EasyBid as a free member, and will be upgrading to stores / pro shortly - this after a potentially business-ruining experience with an unresponsive eBay staff that refuses to answer my emails with anything but a form letter, and allows thieves to run rampant on their site, preying on honest merchants. I have documented all of this on www.Net4TruthUSA.com/ebaystore.htm and you should have a look at it, along with numerous complaints of the same nature filed by disenchanted merchants and buyers on www.RipOffReport.com - I tell you, only the fact that I have been doing Internet business since 1994 saved me from the thieves, and my losses would NOT have been covered had I shipped the expensive merchandise to the thieves who ordered it via my store. My post and complaint with RipOffReport spells it out with screen shots - and THEN they have the NERVE to blame ME for their failure to deliver download links for digitally-delivered items that resulted in a few customer complaints for $1.00 and $3.00 items. That was the last straw!

       I am writing to you as a businessman, and I can tell you that when you get as big as eBay, you start to lose focus on the needs of people who keep you in business. Those matters were easily resolved, but after WEEKS of wasting my time with these idiots, I decided that I was "pissing up a rope" as they say in the military. LATER for eBay.

       I'm doing a few test pages on your site, and if it works well, the "PhoenixStore" link from all the sites (and their mirror sites) represented by the logos below, will be changed to {my store} on EasyBid.

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David Todeschini


 

 

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